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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jul 11, 2011 3:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: - Happiness is Drumming -

Yeah, great run, good show.

Our most esteemed colleague "Jerlouvis" pointed this "jam" out in his recent thread, he keeps notes you know, and being the kind & humble person that he appears to be, he feels the need to show people up with his in-depth knowledge of the Grateful Dead and their music.

Funny, one short year later the Dead were back in Chicago at The Auditorium Theatre on May 13th, 1977 and performed their "Chicago Land" premiere of the classic Scarlet Begonias > Fire on the Mountain pairing which i also noticed was listed in his "in-depth" highly organized and thorough notes.

"Chicago Land" btw has now been defined here as an area comprised of Rockford to the north, Dekalb to the west and Joliet to the south, Lake Michigan to the east, is the lake obvious? doh.

The other jaw dropping and eye opening revelation of Jerlouvis is that "1976, 1977 and 1978 aren't very strong years?" That would put him as the 1% of the other 99% of folks here who completely disagree with this assessment.

Shame on me for posting a link to a show (which my ears enjoy) and highlighting a few compelling songs for others to enjoy.

Wow, so that's how they do it in New York? When exactly did listening to music become a competition?

If you're going to call someone out at the forum as a headline in a thread it will prove to be beneficial in the future to have your facts straight otherwise you look like the putz that you are.

"I believe the more appropriate question is why this band played so well in and around the Chicago Land area in the 70's"

You made this statement in a recent thread,which would imply you had an answer to the question posed.I was wondering why you didn't share your wealth of knowledge on the subject with your fellow forumites?
I looked through my notes and found 26 performances in the Chicago Land area from the 70's.Three shows I had not heard because I could not find a source 11/25/70,3/19/71 and 8/24/71,bringing the total to 23 shows.
I did notice that in the years that truly matter from the 70's,72'-74' there are only 3 performances in the area and as far as I could tell 2 of those shows only have the second set available,slim pickings to base a strong performance history on,I mean 76'-79' aren't very strong years.
In spite of that below I have listed what I thought was good from those 23 shows.
* denotes a good performance
** denotes a very good to extraordinary performance
8-23-71-*Other One,Empty Pages
10-21-71-* Truckin',Tenn. Jed,Cold Rain,Casey Jones(good Keith),Me& My,Sugar Mag ** Big R.R.,Cumberland,Mexicali,Sat. Night,Dark Star
10-22-71-* Cumberland,Other One
2-19-73- ** China Doll,Casey Jones
11-1-73- (2nd set only) ** Half-Step
7-25-74- * cool Slipknot jam,UJB **Brown-Eyed,Scarlet
6-26-76- * Row Jimmy **Peggy-O,Playin',Crazy Fingers,Stella Blue
6-27-76-* Brown-Eyed,FOTD **Might as Well
6-28-76- *Tenn.Jed,Looks Like,Music Never,Wharf Rat ** Promised
6-29-76- *Tenn.Jed,Peggy-O,Looks Like,Brown-Eyed,Might as ** Cassidy,Mission in the Rain,Candyman,Wheel
5-2-77-* Bertha,Peggy-O, Jack Straw,Dancin' ** Half-Step
1-30-78- *Direwolf,Brown-Eyed,interesting Franklin's ** Lazy Ltg-> Supp.,Eyes
1-31-78- *El Paso,Fire ** Candyman,Let it Grow
2-1-78-*Ramble on,Cassidy,Roses,unusual Estimated ** Jack Straw,FOTD,Sugaree,Samson
5-16-78- *Jack Straw,Cassidy,Row Jimmy,Music Never
5-17-78- *FOTD ** Roses,Dancin'
11-16-78 *Brown-Eyed,BIODTL,Deal
11-17-78- acoustic show-weak performance,interesting This Time Forever
11-17-78- electric *Bertha,Ship of Fools,Terrapin
11-18-78- *Candyman,El Paso,Music Never,Sugar Mag
12-3-79- *Promised,Ramble on,All Over Now,Jack-A-Roe,Althea,Playin',Wharf Rat ** Alabama,Samson
12-4-79- *Jack Straw,China Cat,Stella,NFA
12-5-79- *Ship of Fools,Other One,Black Peter

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 11, 2011 11:38am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: - Happiness is Drumming -

In actuality I am a very humble and nice person,from what I know about you I have developed a strong dislike.I think you are a contemptible,mentally unstable and stupid individual and will waste no more time on you.I'm not going argue the misinformation in your post because you are not capable of an intelligent discourse,and if you understood the post in the first place you would not have made such ignorant comments.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jul 11, 2011 3:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: - Happiness is Drumming ?

* I got your original question, I was out Friday and didn't read it until Saturday and by that time you had spiraled down to “talking trash” something about a "loudmouth fraud" so I saw no compelling reason to reply.

Of my posts since last fall, half of your responses have been professional, the other half condescending. It's no big deal, it's just an internet chatroom for christ's sake!

Anyone here with half a brain knows that I’m not Kochman, it's just the little game that gets played and in a way it's pretty cool if you think about it.

I mean take Cliff for example, he's content to be a jerk and an asshole, that’s well documented here, and you have a handful of dudes that are loyal to him, fight his little war for him, and that's something that impresses me about some of the dudes from the East Coast, loyalty.

Take for example the Yankees fan who caught Derek Jeters 3000th hit (home run) he was holding a $200,000 baseball in his hand and out of his loyalty to the team handed it right back over to Jeter, that's impressive!

I don't base my ego on a perceived status at an internet chat room, I’ve accomplished plenty in this life and have been blessed with a wonderful family and more friends than I have time for.

As you may be aware, when you cross over the 50's threshold some men take stock of their life and sometimes yearn for all the fun that they once had when they were young and care free.

That's why I checked in here to relive some of the memories of the 24 years I spent on the scene, it's now been 17 years since I moved on, and as we all know, you simply can't have that kind of fun in America any more.

In the future, if you’re going to call someone out in the heading of a post, and then write broad sweeping false statements about someone’s character, you should also provide documented proof and evidence with which to back up it, otherwise it’s just libelous nonsense and you’ll be perceived as the ignorant one.

So call me whatever you want, delusional, fraud, loudmouth, sociopath, stupid, and i’ll continue to post show links with a few song suggestions that I might happen to be listening to and if I have the time I may continue to pen more reviews from the 130 shows that I’ve attended.

* Why did the Dead play so well in and around the Chicago Land area in the 70's?

Well, first and foremost the level of comfort that they were provided in the city, the promoters treated them with respect here, when you live on the road comfortable accommodations are rare and very important, so is that other precious commodity, sleep.

Secondly, the music halls in Chicago are amazing (auditorium & uptown theatre) and this provided inspiration and an advantage in terms of the gestalt of their sound, similar to Europe in 1972.

Third, ok i’ll say it just once, the peruvian flake that was pouring out of Florida into Chicago in the mid seventies was fucking amazing, smooth, clean and pure, nothing like the petroleum washed garbage that flows up through Mexico. Most of us partied back in the day and that indeed was the shit, all good, no edge!.

Fourth and foremost the talent of that particular band line-up with the Godchaux's (1971 - 1978) in my humble opinion was the most musical in their long 30 year evolving musical history.

Much of the Dead's music in 1968 - 1969 is extremely well played but find it very intense to listen to and frankly I wasn’t on the scene until 1971, so I really don't comment on it. I would have to injest some liquid material to relate to that today and those days are long past.

Oh and BTW, I’ll stop calling Garcia the "Jer Bear" when the other grown men around here stop referring to Weir as "Bobby".

Have a nice Day! :)

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Poster: Skobud Date: Jul 11, 2011 5:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: - Happiness is Drumming ?

I was gonna leave it alone, but after reading this quote I couldnt help myself

"I don't base my ego on a perceived status at an internet chat room, I’ve accomplished plenty in this life and have been blessed with a wonderful family and more friends than I have time for."

If there ever was a perfect Kochman quote, this is it. Only you could wrap up a ridiculously ironic statement like this in a vail of narcissistic blether. Fucking outstanding work Koch. I love it.

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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Jul 11, 2011 6:13pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: - Happiness is Drumming ?

I'm really quite astonished, Tim. I think Kochman is so deluded that he truly believes that statement. It's actually rather sad. Didn't his wife leave him because he wouldn't seek treatment for his mental illness?

I actually pity Kochman. He must be going through another "rough patch" in life for him to be spending so much time and effort here trying to deceive everyone...

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Poster: jerlouvis Date: Jul 11, 2011 4:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: - Happiness is Drumming ?

I think this can be cleared up by my never responding to any of your posts again.I would not no where to begin,or how to address the the many strange and assumptive things you mentioned in that post.Suffice to say we will both benefit from no further exchange.

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Jul 11, 2011 7:08am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Auditorium Theatre 05/13/77

Set 1

The Music Never Stopped
Ramble On Rose
Brown Eyed Women
New Minglewood Blues
Friend Of The Devil
El Paso
Looks Like Rain
Scarlet Begonias ->
Fire On The Mountain

Set 2

Samson And Delilah ->
Estimated Prophet ->
Drums ->
The Other One ->
Stella Blue ->
Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad ->
One More Saturday Night

U.S. Blues

"when words fall to silence, only the music remains"

This post was modified by dark.starz on 2011-07-11 14:08:24